Hey Howdy Hey Tappers!
Viva Las Springfield! Vegas has arrived in Springfield and nothing says Vegas like rigged games of chance! Cletus’ Dice Den is a place where you can experience first hand one of those rigged games of chance…as you try your luck in the TSTO’s dice game!
So what can you win at Celtus’ Dice Den? How do you win? How do you cheat? Let’s take a look at all those questions and more as we break down the details of Cletus’ Dice Den….
You guys know the drill by now…we’ll start with the basics
How Do I Unlock Cletus’ Dice Den?
Cletus’ Dice Den will unlock, for FREE, once you reach The Old Man and the ‘Sino Pt. 11. Cletus’ starts this off. After you’ve placed and built the den you’ll still need Cletus free to trigger Dice with the Devil. Once that starts you’ll be able to actually place Dice at the Den.
How Do I Use Cletus’ Dice Den?
To “gamble” at the den you’ll need Tokens. They look like this…
Once you have at least 1 Token you can use it at Cletus’…Just like at Moe’s.
How Do I Earn Tokens?
Tokens will randomly pop out of Gamblers as you tap them..
You can also earn Tokens when you complete tasks at Burns’ Casino…1 token/4hrs per character that has a task there.
And of course you can buy them for donuts in the store…I DO NOT recommend buying them. You can earn Tokens pretty easily, DO NOT waste your donuts on them in the store.
So What Happens Once I Have A Token?
Well…you tap on Cletus’ Dice Den and it’ll bring up the Dice game…
First you must pick a number between 2 and 12. Once you’ve selected your number, tap on it and the game will start.
Tap on the can to roll the dice….
You’ll have 3 chances to match the number you picked.
So How Do You Win?
Simple…you have 3 rolls to match the number. Match the number you win. Fail to match it and you lose.
Simple right? 🙂
What Can I Win?
For Act 1…you can win Red Chips & Crafting Currency. Every throw is a winner, so even when you lose you’ll still win something.
Here are the chip payouts:
The payout is all based on the initial number you pick. The easier the number is to get, the smaller the chip payout.
You can also randomly earn crafting currency when you win (or lose). Occasionally you’ll see crafting currency popup as a prize in addition to the Chips…
The bonus crafting payout is random and doesn’t always happen. There’s no special trick to getting crafting currency to popup.
What Happens When I Lose?
If you lose at Cletus’ you’re still a winner! Sorta… If you lose you’ll win a courtesy chip.
During Act 1 you can trade courtesy chips in for chips via the crafting menu. 10 courtesy chips = 100 . (This payout will change to Act 2 and Act 3 currency…so you’ll earn 100 Act 2 currency for 10 courtesy chips when Act 2 hits, and 100 Act 3 currency for 10 courtesy chips)
When you lose you’ll also occasionally get a crafting payout, just like when you win.
The Game Said Something About Cheating, How Do I Cheat?
First, let me say this…cheating is random. There is nothing you can do to get it to popup. It’s completely random. So don’t think you can do something to cheat…you can’t. It’ll just popup from time to time.
Now..there are currently two ways to cheat at the dice. The first is pictured in the image above. You’ll get a popup that says to pick a different number..
When this happens, at least for me, it’ll change the number to 2 or 12….the highest payout:
This method will only happen if you roll a 2 or a 12…from what I’ve experienced.
The second cheat pops up every once in a while and tells you that Cletus is experiencing ‘Shine Blindness’.
This method allows you to use trick dice…and basically roll whatever your number is..sorta
Again…there’s nothing you can do to make the cheat trigger. It’s completely random and will popup in your game when you can.
Well It’s a Dice Game, So There Are Specific Odds…What Are Those Odds?
So first…yes typical Dice Games do have specific odds. As in based on the number of possible combinations to roll a number..that’s what drives those odds. However, that’s with dice you can hold in your hand and throw. Not computerized dice games.
Cletus’ Dice Den is computerized. The odds don’t really work with traditional thinking..it’s a game. Just have fun with it…since it’s rigged in your favor.
Now that being said an Addicts reader Clemens sent us an email this morning, and they broke down the odds for those who want to know. Keep in mind this is Clemens’ take on the odds. This is not based on anything from the game coding, so don’t freak out about it. This is really just for those that like to figure this kind of stuff out. (And I hate for Clemens’ hard work to go to waste…)
Here is a short look at the mathematics behind Cletus’ Dice Game:
Considering probabilities and payout you get most chips for your tokens if you go with the 5 or the 9.
First take a look at the number of possible combinations:
To get 2 or 12: 1 combination
To get 3 or 11: 2 combinations
To get 4 or 10: 3 combinations
To get 5 or 9: 4 combinations
To get 6 or 8: 5 combinations
To get 7: 6 combinations
There is a total of 36 possible combinations and the probability for one specific pair of dice is the number of combinations for this sum divided by the total number of combinations (36).
Now we get the chance to roll the dice three times which leaves us with the following probabilities to get a sum in one of the three attempts:
To get 2 or 12: 8.1%
To get 3 or 11: 14.76%
To get 4 or 10: 22.97%
To get 5 or 9: 29.77%
To get 6 or 8: 36.14%
To get 7: 42.13%
As you can see you are most likely to win if you pick the seven. But does that mean you should always pick seven? No!
As you win more chips if the probability of success is smaller the game changes. To see which number has the highest amount of chips per token spent we multiply probability with the number of chips you can win. Which leaves us with the following:
Picking 2 or 12 you earn an average of 32.42 chips per token spent.
Picking 3 or 11: 44.28 chips
Picking 4 or 10: 53.54 chips
Picking 5 or 9: 59.54 chips
Picking 6 or 8: 54.32 chips
Picking 7: 46.34 chips
As you can see it is neither the best idea to go for the highest amount of chips at 2 or 12 nor to go for the highest win rate at the 7. Math tells you to go for the 5 or 9 instead, as you will win 29.77% of the games and still get 200 chips per win.
All of that is without considering cheating. As cheating is a random process I cannot include it in my calculations. It will only increase your gain in total but not the probability of the single numbers so it wouldn’t matter anyways. (To be precise the one cheat does not make sense in comparison with picking the two so picking two has an even lower gain in comparison.)
As to whether to play Cletus’ or Moe’s game maths cannot recommend either as winning at Moe’s is completely random. To me it feels like I gain more playing at Cletus though. (Picking 5 and 9 of course)
Now my personal take on it? It’s all random. The odds are no better at Cletus’ than they are at Moe’s. So play whichever you like…and don’t worry about the odds. Pick a number that you like, because you like it 🙂
And there you have it…the details on Cletus’ Dice Den!
What are your thoughts on the Dice Den? Having success with the dice? Or do you prefer the slots? Enjoying the “winning”? Sound off in the comments below, you know we love hearing from you!